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		<title>By: Jim Oher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Oher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 11:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John I disagree with your premise that leadership is not what you accomplish.  It very much is. Yes a good leadership must have consideration of those he leads – be aware or inquire as to why they are thinking and doing what they are -   but I strongly believe that a leader MUST be self aware THROUGH self reflection and being resilient. I disagree that group dynamics will ruin a good leader – he/she has to constructively know how to confront and manage them – and manipulating group think usually proves to be destructive and unproductive.  Do you comments make sense to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John I disagree with your premise that leadership is not what you accomplish.  It very much is. Yes a good leadership must have consideration of those he leads – be aware or inquire as to why they are thinking and doing what they are &#8211;   but I strongly believe that a leader MUST be self aware THROUGH self reflection and being resilient. I disagree that group dynamics will ruin a good leader – he/she has to constructively know how to confront and manage them – and manipulating group think usually proves to be destructive and unproductive.  Do you comments make sense to you?</p>
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		<title>By: John P</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy your entries even when I don&#039;t comment.  But I find my self wondering if we are missing the point.  Was Lincoln a good leader?  I mean, that is at least one of the premises you are presuming, correct?  I don&#039;t know if he was.  Current wisdom gives him a &#039;C&#039; for prosecuting a war, yet an &#039;A&#039; as a president.  I give him a D and a B respectively. In the corporate world, &#039;good leadership&#039; is defined by those you lead. Right?  Tragically, leadership is not in what you accomplish.  Only the military and perhaps some sports circles embrace such a crass measure of successful leadership.  Yet managers who act as leaders or leaders who act as managers are typically defined by those they manage.  Those they manage have multi-variate personalities and perspectives all which are equally valid -- we are constantly reminded.  So the corporate leader then, must not worry about self-reflection, maturing, resilience, and etc. If this condition is valid then a &quot;good leader&quot; should discard every skill that advances an initiative and worry only about manipulating group think.  It&#039;s group dynamics that will ruin a good leader, not failure.  Forget for a moment whether this posting is cynical or dark.  Consider if it is true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy your entries even when I don&#8217;t comment.  But I find my self wondering if we are missing the point.  Was Lincoln a good leader?  I mean, that is at least one of the premises you are presuming, correct?  I don&#8217;t know if he was.  Current wisdom gives him a &#8216;C&#8217; for prosecuting a war, yet an &#8216;A&#8217; as a president.  I give him a D and a B respectively. In the corporate world, &#8216;good leadership&#8217; is defined by those you lead. Right?  Tragically, leadership is not in what you accomplish.  Only the military and perhaps some sports circles embrace such a crass measure of successful leadership.  Yet managers who act as leaders or leaders who act as managers are typically defined by those they manage.  Those they manage have multi-variate personalities and perspectives all which are equally valid &#8212; we are constantly reminded.  So the corporate leader then, must not worry about self-reflection, maturing, resilience, and etc. If this condition is valid then a &#8220;good leader&#8221; should discard every skill that advances an initiative and worry only about manipulating group think.  It&#8217;s group dynamics that will ruin a good leader, not failure.  Forget for a moment whether this posting is cynical or dark.  Consider if it is true?</p>
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